Taking the Floor at Ford: women in a man's world
Taking the Floor at Ford: In Conversation with Debbie Bacon
and Lolly Gresty, former employees at Ford Transit Assembly Plant, Southampton,
23 October 2017. [This event was part of the SO: To Speak Festival]
“I feel I’ve been very
fortunate to have been brought up in a time when girls were allowed to do
whatever they wanted basically. Just tap
on the right door and make sure they let you in. And not give up.” [Debbie]
And
she didn’t give up – not when she and her friends at school had to fight to be
allowed to study technical drawing usually only offered to boys; not when
Factories Act rules placed restrictions during her apprenticeship at Ford
Dagenham; nor when she was faced with resentful male colleagues on becoming their
supervisor. It was this resilience and determination that helped Debbie and
other women like her to succeed in male-dominated workplaces in manufacturing
and engineering.
These
stories were the focus of our discussion at the packed-out event at Mettricks
Old Town Café recently during which Debbie and Lolly shared and compared their
very different experiences, while other women’s perspectives were added through
audio clips from previously recorded oral history interviews.
When
Debbie started as an apprentice in the late 1970s she was the only female
manufacturing technician apprentice in her batch, later becoming the first
woman supervisor and Superintendent at the Dagenham assembly plant. Some of her
early experiences were echoed in the audio extracts: starting in the 1980s, Nicola
found the older men were reluctant to train her as they “thought that the women should be at home at the kitchen sink”. She
found “it was a bit scary to start with
but you have got to be a little bit mouthy as well”.
Lolly
who joined Ford in 2004, reflected on how different her time working on the
production line had been. The atmosphere was relaxed and friendly, the
camaraderie and banter made her feel welcomed and totally accepted by her male
colleagues. Sexism and racism were considered unacceptable and could result in
someone losing their job. Lolly was struck by how much she and her generation
of women took these equalities and working conditions for granted as she paid
tribute to the women like the sewing machinists at Dagenham who had gone on
strike to get equal pay and a recognition of their skilled work. She also recognised
the role that women like Debbie had played as role models for others, some of
whom, like Claire went on to do apprenticeships and felt encouraged to become
supervisors.
Over
the past 30 years, changes in labour laws, hard-won rights from women’s
campaigns, and a major shift in social attitudes have paved the way for more
women to enter and succeed in technical and manufacturing roles. By the time
the Ford Transit plant in Southampton closed down in 2013, there were more women
working on the shop floor, and as supervisors and senior managers, and who took
equal pay, career progression and professional recognition for granted.
Written by Padmini Broomfield
Some Tweets reporting on the discussions:
Written by Padmini Broomfield
Some Tweets reporting on the discussions:
Women couldn’t work night shifts like men so earning potential was much lower @Making2Moving pic.twitter.com/CpY2ftOqtf— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
Fascinating oral history from daughter of Rita who was involved in the Ford Dagenham equal pay strikes @Making2Moving— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
What a brilliant way Rita demonstrated that making seatcovers was a skilled job & needed parity of pay with men's skilled jobs. #oralhistory https://t.co/Zzer6GlYDB— Ford TRANSITion (@Making2Moving) October 25, 2017
Debbie found out none of the female supervisors received “merit money”, also excluded from overtime opportunities @Making2Moving pic.twitter.com/uc37Kq46d0— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
Debbie was asked if she liked boys in her interview! Not sure what they thought was a good answer! @Making2Moving— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
"They're not bad" Debbie's response. Yes or No would've been mis-read. She got into the apprenticeship. Would this question be asked today? https://t.co/FddwDwfu0e— Ford TRANSITion (@Making2Moving) October 25, 2017
Debbie supervised men who didn’t want to be told what to do by a woman. She won them round by being straightforward and fair @Making2Moving— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
As a woman supervisor said,"I've got one of them at home. Don't come here to take orders from a woman!" #oralhistory of women in manufacturing in 1970s-80s https://t.co/9Fpl1ixYeE— Ford TRANSITion (@Making2Moving) October 25, 2017
“Don’t ever let them see you crying, or you’ve had it” @Making2Moving— Sarah Wyatt (@MuseumGeekGirl) October 23, 2017
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